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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:13:00 -
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Okay, im gonna try write this without yelling, cause this ****ed me off, me and my corp pulled together 6 RR domi's and thought we would try out those vanguards, they said 5-10 people, allright we can do that, we finaly find one with rats in it, we begin, and as our tank holds the rats, we spend the hour or so it takes to acturly kill the little buggers, and we finaly get the "completet" message window up, yet we got no reward from it, finding it strange we looking into it, finding out that the around 10 random people there, apparently ment that out little domi gang wasnt "the highest contributing fleet" present, so we got no reward... this is basicly what I like to call... BULL****... so is this gonna be the case allways? it's blob or nothing ?
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:27:00 -
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Let me just write what the LP log tells me.
Type: Vanguard.
Encounter: Override transfer array.
LPs in pool: 0
LPs paid out: 0
Description: Disqualified: You whree not part of the primary contributing fleet.
So don't tell me just to wait it out, this is bull... so much for just grap afew friends and do incursion, rather join the blob, and remember not to be RR then you get concorded, so basicly a slug fest on who dies first, the player blob or the rats.
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:30:00 -
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 Originally by: gfldex
Originally by: Elleni Stareru
it's blob or nothing ?
In highsec the bigger fleet that is in the site when the final trigger is hit will win. No matter who has removed all those NPCs that wont even give proper salvage. That's the price you have to pay for not being shot by sayed bigger blob.
so in any case im better off just ignoring incursions ever happend, it's just an annoying fact, that you have to ignore, good thing they don't gate camp in high sec.
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Knighthawk
erm .. I think we were the "random" guys and what we did was hack the containers which allowed the remote repping towers to be turned off. This allowed the sansha to take damage. and yes indeed, the fleet with the most pilots get the stuff (and it comes as soon as its been defeated). .... sorry but the I think the mechanics sorta suck too. .... but wee learned the hard way ourselves
Yeah it helped alot, but seriosely we tanked sooo much dmg <.< we had issues keeping up sometimes with the fast dmg... it was quite intense for us, and it really leaves us ****ed not getting reward after, having only the biggest fleet get reward is just broken, why even make "small" incursions and not just one big and leave the whole thing for the blob...
this game really seems to be heading away from tactical gameplay...
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
Originally by: Elleni Stareru
so in any case im better off just ignoring incursions ever happend, it's just an annoying fact, that you have to ignore, good thing they don't gate camp in high sec.
Indeed. Not even politics would help as the bigger blob has no interest to share you in. In fact for small sites they are better off ignoring you. If you want to have reason to work together with other corps you better head for 0.0.
We are working on that :) along with small gang low sec roam, sometimes I have this dream of a sorta "arena" in eve... where we can do our own tournament fights, for no other reason then fame and tactical pvp, but that will forever be a dream I guess...
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Knighthawk
yeah .. and another thing which sucks is that if you have too many folks in your fleet you get squat.
looks like Incursion gets to be a (warp in with one more then other fleet, but too many and get nothing) We ran one prior and finished it but had too many.
When we warped to you guys, we had just come of one just like it and had a successful go at it. .... but I liked your set up alot! Be sure to have a hacker with your fleet at all times. its really important.
Thanks, and yeah we do need a hacker, was our first take at stuff, we didnt expect to do more then pew and tank, but did that end up biting our rears :P good thing you guys came along.
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Elleni Stareru on 25/01/2011 20:06:09
Originally by: Disteeler
I think if you bring too many ppl (or too few), rewards go down the drain. In the journal you can see the graphs with the number of player sweet spot for each type of mission.
Yeah it feels like the incursions was ment to be "instances" with the reward restricting acturly being based on the recommended fleet size... but maybe that's just me.
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Marianne Taggart
What they need to do is tie the rewards for every ship killed. You get the killshot, you get bounty and some concord LP. Not perfect but it beats the hell out of fighting pimped out super-rats for no reward. That would eliminate 95% of the complaints out there. Too much stick for the Incursions, it needs more carrot!
I think they should go ask mythic about their warhammer online public quest system... it wasnt perfect but darn me if it didnt atleast work slightly as intented...
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
Originally by: Major Snitch
...what ever you like to do ...
I'm watching jita market. This day will be forever known as "THE GREAT DRAKE CRISIS".
The silly little buggers, make them pay high for their new "ships"
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.26 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jojo Jackson
Can't be true.
We had a gang of 7(+1) and entered some real grouded Sites (30+++ neutral player) ... we just did the right stuff in there and got rewards.
And some sites we entered first, did the right stuff but suddenly 30 neutrals poped up in the site ... we got the rewards.
It does not matter, how many you are, it just matter, if you kill the right stuff at the right moment ;).
Then can you explain why we didnt get any reward from doing the site we did ? we spend around 1 hour + in there fighting a rather intense fight.
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.26 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal
yea things will settle down
As much as that's a fact, it's as much a fact that the incurions themself are based on a very bad mechanic, im not talking about the rats at all, they are fine, but the mechaning in which the incursions are done is just bad and flawed.
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Elleni Stareru
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Posted - 2011.01.26 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rin Vires
Did you even read a single post in this thread? This is not about the difficulty or getting popped. It's about a crappy reward system. Keep up the "I'm superior" attitude though, because it's totally not making you look like an idiot.
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